Ever since the last love letter I penned to being wrong, I've had a quote on my mind. Well, not really a quote, it was something that got said on a podcast, and it hit the spot so comprehensively, it's stuck with me ever since.
So I've been doing some detective work and located it for you. I had the pleasure of listening through to this episode all the way through and it's so good, I'm going to share the whole thing with you.
It's a 45 minute long podcast episode from Jamie Smart, in conversation with Jan and Chip Chipman – two of the loveliest people you could ever hope to meet, both of whom worked directly with Syd Banks, as you'll hear.
The topic is Relationships, but the conversation is wide-ranging (and the whole of life is relationship, in one way or another, so you're guaranteed to hear something that resonates).
Chip passed away in December 2024 and is sorely missed. It's lovely that there's so much of his presence and wisdom still available out there. Enjoy the listen, it's a fantastic episode:
The line that had me spitting my tea out with mirth was when Jamie's talking about how insight can bring hope to situations “where there was none before” and he says,
“Hope and humility go hand in hand, because the moment before hope shone a light on the situation, I was sure that how I saw it was right and was ‘the way things were’, and things couldn't change… and part of the hope was, ‘Oh, maybe I'm not as right as I thought I was about this!’”
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This throwaway sentence had such an impact on me, that in the concluding chapter of the book I'm currently writing, I say:
“If you're going to embrace being wrong about something, then perhaps the most hopeful subject of all to choose is where, and when, to find happiness.”
It's a lot closer than you think.
💝
Giles
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